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Hi all, new to the forum. Purchased my Giulia AWD TI a few weeks ago and LOVE the car. Soooooo many compliments. However, like most others here, I have been dealing with a few issues and have an appointment with the service department tomorrow, but would appreciate anyone’s feedback regarding the following:

Build date 4/17

1. Brake squeal. Not bad and doesnt it do it all the time, but certainly enough to be annoying when it does. Is this normal? Does the car have to go thru a break in period?

2. Very loud grinding rattle sound coming from the rear of the car when driving. Seems to get louder when accelerating. It sounds like something could be loose under the car.

3. Idles rough in the cold. In fact, tonight, while idling, I revved the engine and couldn’t get the RPM’s to go above 2K. The needle went to about 4K, but the actual engine would not rev above 2K. It almost sounded like the engine wasn’t firing on all cylinders. No issues driving though and idle does seem to drop down when car is warmer.

4. Occasional issue with the remote start. Is there a sequence that should be followed? Also, is there a way to have the car idle for longer than 10 min or to be able to restart it once the initial period expires.

Thanks for any information.
 

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Any check engine light? The 17s need a bunch of updates. Lots of stuff is software related so you might not need parts. Brake squeal was traced to some bad rotors in production, might be the cause. But on my quad, some squeal is normal on first moving and rotors are rusty. Anti squeal paste on the back of the pads may help too. You may have felt "limp mode" when the engine cuts power to some cylinders to prevent wrecking the catalytic converter and valves from poor running. Remote start had issues too. Get the updates. Good luck. Be happy if you aren't snowed in.
 

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Hi all, new to the forum. Purchased my Giulia AWD TI a few weeks ago and LOVE the car. Soooooo many compliments. However, like most others here, I have been dealing with a few issues and have an appointment with the service department tomorrow, but would appreciate anyone’s feedback regarding the following:

Build date 4/17

1. Brake squeal. Not bad and doesnt it do it all the time, but certainly enough to be annoying when it does. Is this normal? Does the car have to go thru a break in period?

Thanks for any information.
Hi, I have a 2018 base, purchased in November, and the brake squeal started at around 400 miles. As predicted, the day I took it to the dealer, not a peep during a ride along with the tech. But it was an unusually warm winter day. He speculated that it was glaze on the rotor and I could wear it off with use. When the snow goes away, I will try to record the noise. It is REALLY annoying and sometimes pretty embarrassing. But, I don’t want to start trying to adjust things in a new car if it can be avoided. One poster mentioned that things got worse after service.
 

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Brake squeal is common on 2.0 cars, too. I have it. Yes it’s very un-Lexus like and pretty unusual for a modern OEM street car, but it seems to be pretty common to the Giulia. So I would say it’s normal. It’s also pretty common for anyone used to dealing with aftermarket high performance brake pads. With this Alfa I suspect if NVH issues bother you turn up the stereo louder to overcome it mixed with the occasional Italian tune up of accelerating briskly and then braking hard to clean the discs and deposit a good layer of friction material! Otherwise you might drive yourself crazy trying to make it perfect. The car is imperfect but good.
 

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Brake squeal is common on 2.0 cars, too. I have it. Yes it’s very un-Lexus like and pretty unusual for a modern OEM street car, but it seems to be pretty common to the Giulia. So I would say it’s normal. It’s also pretty common for anyone used to dealing with aftermarket high performance brake pads. With this Alfa I suspect if NVH issues bother you turn up the stereo louder to overcome it mixed with the occasional Italian tune up of accelerating briskly and then braking hard to clean the discs and deposit a good layer of friction material! Otherwise you might drive yourself crazy trying to make it perfect. The car is imperfect but good.
Ugh, I was holding out hope it would go away! I’m constantly adjusting the stereo... down so I can hear acceleration, up so I don’t hear the brakes.
 

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7,300 miles and I just got some squealing the last couple of weeks after temperatures fell below 40F. Tends to happen in the first couple of minutes and then disappear, in my case.
 

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Hi all, new to the forum. Purchased my Giulia AWD TI a few weeks ago and LOVE the car. Soooooo many compliments. However, like most others here, I have been dealing with a few issues and have an appointment with the service department tomorrow, but would appreciate anyone’s feedback regarding the following:

Build date 4/17

1. Brake squeal. Not bad and doesnt it do it all the time, but certainly enough to be annoying when it does. Is this normal? Does the car have to go thru a break in period?

2. Very loud grinding rattle sound coming from the rear of the car when driving. Seems to get louder when accelerating. It sounds like something could be loose under the car.

3. Idles rough in the cold. In fact, tonight, while idling, I revved the engine and couldn’t get the RPM’s to go above 2K. The needle went to about 4K, but the actual engine would not rev above 2K. It almost sounded like the engine wasn’t firing on all cylinders. No issues driving though and idle does seem to drop down when car is warmer.

4. Occasional issue with the remote start. Is there a sequence that should be followed? Also, is there a way to have the car idle for longer than 10 min or to be able to restart it once the initial period expires.

Thanks for any information.
1. No. I had it on my 2018, Alfa mechanic can make a slight adjustment if it's a squeal when you pump the breaks. You don't have to be moving to test this. Now if you hear a general squeal, welcome to brembo breaks. Not uncommon considering they are 4 piston calipers. You'll tend to hear this in lower temperatures.

2. Very possible definitely take this in to Alfa. Check your trunk for any lose items.

3. This is normal and it's also noted in the manual. When the car is in park it prevents you from over revving, this is a safety feature. Once the engine warms up, it should resume to normal.

4. I can't figure out to maintain it past 10/15min. Once in a while i have an issue where it will not remote start and i have come to the conclusion that I left the car unlocked! Has not happened often enough to get some good consistency but i'm pretty sure i left the car unlocked. The car will also not remote start if you don't have enough gas! The manual has all the scenarios if i remember correctly.
 

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Is it possible that the guides for the brake pad ends are contributing to the brake squeal problem? An online "how to fix brake squeal" guide says make certain that the pads slide smoothly in their guides as well as make certain that the caliper slides smoothly on its slide. Both should be lubricated with appropriate high temp grease.
 

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3. This is normal and it's also noted in the manual. When the car is in park it prevents you from over revving, this is a safety feature. Once the engine warms up, it should resume to normal.

I agree. Revs are purposely limited in park and neutral and it’s completely normal across almost all car makes. Mostly done to limit emissions and to prevent people from doing “neutral drops” (revving the engine up high and then dropping the gear lever into gear). Not that burnouts are possible with the non-defeatable TC and ESC on the 2.0L cars. But back in the day before so many electronic control systems, teenagers would do neural drops to get the fastest launch possible. This puts tremendous wear and tear on the car and potentially expensive warranty costs. So to protect us from ourselves revs are limited.
 

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2.0 TI Q4,
1. Over 10,000 miles no Brake squeal (many do have it)
2. No rattle.
3. Rough idle, yes a little better after update.
4.Remote Start, conditions have to be perfect or it's flaky.
 

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1. My car is at the shop as we speak, for the second time, addressing the brake squeal.
2. No issues
3. No issues
4. My remote start works FLAWLESSLY. I was once at the furthest end of a huge dept store, with my car parked on the other end, as far away from where I was standing as you could get. I thought to myself..... I wonder... and hit the button twice. When I got to my car, it was running. Very impressed!
 

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I've got the brake squeals also, but none of the other issues you describe. (I was having a remote start issue at first because i was told you first had to lock the car and then hit the button twice, but then thanks to this forum I found out that you don't have to lock first)
 

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I have now the brake squeal as well, but just as what other say, it is cold and goes away after a little while.

As for the remote start, i started having issues after the new 12/02 software update, where the car shuts off after 30 seconds and an check engine light comes on. half of the things inside on the dash stopped working, but funny enough, after a short while I start the car with the start/stop button, and everything is fine.

car goes in (again) on the 15th for this issue.
 

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Hi again, so here’s my update after dealer visit today.

1. Alfa tech said brake squeal was related to glazing, so he cleaned the brake pads and rotors. Driving home brakes were silent. Seemed like the issue was fixed. Stopped at a store on my way home, got back in the car, started to drive, and yep, you guessed it, the squeal was back. I realize others in this thread and in this forum said it’s primarily due to the high performance Brembo brakes, and while it’s not horrible and I can certainly drown it out by turning up the radio, that’s really not the answer. From reading things online, I may try to bed-in the brakes. If you’re not familiar with that procedure, google it. That’s why I did. :). One other thing. While I was at the dealer I was speaking to a mechanic (not an Alfa mechanic, just someone who was having his car serviced) and he said brakes on a new car should not squeal, period. I bought my car in NJ and need to have it inspected since I live in PA, so I’ll ask the tech about it again then.

2. Rattle was related to something coming loose underneath the car, so whatever it was, they fixed it.

3. Had all software updates, but idle still seems a bit rough. Granted, it’s about 8 degrees in PA now, so this issue is TBD. Seems to run fine once warmed up though.

4. Remote was a software update. So far so good.

5. One other thing I noticed that I forgot to mention previously was a rubbing in the steering wheel when turning left or right. It just started doing this the other day when the temperature dropped, so this could be related to the cold too.

That’s all I got. Thanks for your feedback.
 

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Hi again, so here’s my update after dealer visit today.

1. Alfa tech said brake squeal was related to glazing, so he cleaned the brake pads and rotors. Driving home brakes were silent. Seemed like the issue was fixed. Stopped at a store on my way home, got back in the car, started to drive, and yep, you guessed it, the squeal was back. I realize others in this thread and in this forum said it’s primarily due to the high performance Brembo brakes, and while it’s not horrible and I can certainly drown it out by turning up the radio, that’s really not the answer. From reading things online, I may try to bed-in the brakes. If you’re not familiar with that procedure, google it. That’s why I did. :). One other thing. While I was at the dealer I was speaking to a mechanic (not an Alfa mechanic, just someone who was having his car serviced) and he said brakes on a new car should not squeal, period. I bought my car in NJ and need to have it inspected since I live in PA, so I’ll ask the tech about it again then.

2. Rattle was related to something coming loose underneath the car, so whatever it was, they fixed it.

3. Had all software updates, but idle still seems a bit rough. Granted, it’s about 8 degrees in PA now, so this issue is TBD. Seems to run fine once warmed up though.

4. Remote was a software update. So far so good.

5. One other thing I noticed that I forgot to mention previously was a rubbing in the steering wheel when turning left or right. It just started doing this the other day when the temperature dropped, so this could be related to the cold too.

That’s all I got. Thanks for your feedback.
3&5 are related to the cold 100% I'm taking mine in for something different but I'm bringing up the steering wheel turning. I'm at Chicago so the weather hasn't been kind either in single and negative digits lately. The idle, i'm 500% sure it's the cold, the manual even states it.
 

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I've noticed when any changes are made, the car seems to take a week or two to "learn" what changed and adjust to it. It generally doesn't like to instantly change it's behavior. As you drive it, it gradually improves.

I don't know who wrote the software that controls this car, but it's pretty amazing. I know that "smart" cars are supposed to be the future, but I don't think we have to wait anymore; this one's already there.
 

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Hi all, new to the forum. Purchased my Giulia AWD TI a few weeks ago and LOVE the car. Soooooo many compliments. However, like most others here, I have been dealing with a few issues and have an appointment with the service department tomorrow, but would appreciate anyone’s feedback regarding the following:

Build date 4/17

1. Brake squeal. Not bad and doesnt it do it all the time, but certainly enough to be annoying when it does. Is this normal? Does the car have to go thru a break in period?

2. Very loud grinding rattle sound coming from the rear of the car when driving. Seems to get louder when accelerating. It sounds like something could be loose under the car.

3. Idles rough in the cold. In fact, tonight, while idling, I revved the engine and couldn’t get the RPM’s to go above 2K. The needle went to about 4K, but the actual engine would not rev above 2K. It almost sounded like the engine wasn’t firing on all cylinders. No issues driving though and idle does seem to drop down when car is warmer.

4. Occasional issue with the remote start. Is there a sequence that should be followed? Also, is there a way to have the car idle for longer than 10 min or to be able to restart it once the initial period expires.

Thanks for any information.
Hi glipschultz1,

Sorry to hear about your concerns with your vehicle. If you require further assistance during your dealership appointment please send us a PM with your VIN and let me know!

Andrea
Alfa Romeo Social Care Specialist
 

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"High performance Brembo brakes"?
My 2018 Ti AWD has ATE (Alfred Teves brake systems) molded on the caliper bodies.
If I had to guess, the pads are ATE as well.
 

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You’re talking about the rear 1-piston sliding calipers, right? Because the fronts are definitely Brembo.

I'm wondering this too... On a 2.0 base giulia are the rears brembo also? My dealership is telling me they are... I have the rear brake squeal too.. Super annoying and loud!
 
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