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Being that my car was built in September 2017, I don't think it would have SGW? The MES software looks like a must have.
My previous car was a MY18 with 9/17 build date, and it was a great car. It is pre-SGW.

I wouldn’t say MES is a must-have; I’ve never felt a need for it. Must-haves for me were things like window tint, more exhaust sound, and an engine tuner.

If you use iPhone, another must-have is Apple CarPlay. Did you check to see if yours is working? It’s complicated, but basically, you should be able to get it dealer activated if it isn’t, probably for free.
 
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My previous car was a MY18 with 9/17 build date, and it was a great car. It is pre-SGW.

I wouldn’t say MES is a must-have; I’ve never felt a need for it. Must-haves for me were things like window tint, more exhaust sound, and an engine tuner.

If you use iPhone, another must-have is Apple CarPlay. Did you check to see if yours is working? It’s complicated, but basically, you should be able to get it dealer activated if it isn’t, probably for free.
Thanks for the SGW feedback.

Luckily, Android Auto and CarPlay work for me. I also updated the infotainment firmware last night just for the hell of it. I'll eventually get MES. Tint and maybe a JB4 are in the plans too.
 

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Oh, how I could forget the one, true, must-have is beyond me: get an OBD2 scanner and a diagnostic app

I‘ve been using the PLX Devices Kiwi3 and the DashCommand app (for iPhone) successfully and happily, and can recommend them. I keep the Kiwi3 in the port and just open DashCommand and tap connect whenever I want to know what’s going on; quick, easy, and always at hand.

OBD2 scanning/reading is the smartest tool you can have in the car, and Kiwi3 has been especially invaluable to me as a modder.


I realize JB4 occupies the OBD2 port and has some diagnostic capabilities, but obviously if problems related to JB4 arise or you pull it off (e.g. for service visit), it won’t do you any good, so an independent diagnostic system is recommended.

MES has an iPhone app, which works with a wifi enabled OB2 scanner, but I’ve not used it, primarily because I already had the Kiwi3, it works, and I saw no real advantage to reinvesting in that department. I did look at MES software and downloaded the app, but as a long-time Apple guy, I was really put off by the UI, too; I’m unimpressed when a huge part of the user experience is ignored, or worse, misunderstood.

Anyway, no matter how it all breaks out for your preferences and desires, get OBD2 scanner functionality. It’ll save you headache.
 
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Oh, how I could forget the one, true, must-have is beyond me: get an OBD2 scanner and a diagnostic app

I‘ve been using the PLX Devices Kiwi3 and the DashCommand app (for iPhone) successfully and happily, and can recommend them. I keep the Kiwi3 in the port and just open DashCommand and tap connect whenever I want to know what’s going on; quick, easy, and always at hand.

OBD2 scanning/reading is the smartest tool you can have in the car, and Kiwi3 has been especially invaluable to me as a modder.


I realize JB4 occupies the OBD2 port and has some diagnostic capabilities, but obviously if problems related to JB4 arise or you pull it off (e.g. for service visit), it won’t do you any good, so an independent diagnostic system is recommended.

MES has an iPhone app, which works with a wifi enabled OB2 scanner, but I’ve not used it, primarily because I already had the Kiwi3, it works, and I saw no real advantage to reinvesting in that department. I did look at MES software and downloaded the app, but as a long-time Apple guy, I was really put off by the UI, too; I’m unimpressed when a huge part of the user experience is ignored, or worse, misunderstood.

Anyway, no matter how it all breaks out for your preferences and desires, get OBD2 scanner functionality. It’ll save you headache.
I really appreciate the info, thanks!
 

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Was going to wait until the Challenger lease was up before purchasing all-weather mats. Then I was browsing the forums here and a really nice user from Ann Arbor posted that he was giving a gently used TuxMat set away because his lease was up and he didn't want to deal with selling/shipping. He just wanted them picked up soon. Got them this morning, after a 2 hour round-trip and a few minutes to install I now have a set of all-weather mats.

If you see this John, thanks again!!

 

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Omg yours is exactly like mine but with the white interior I’m so jealous!!!!!!! Lol
 

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Was going to wait until the Challenger lease was up before purchasing all-weather mats. Then I was browsing the forums here and a really nice user from Ann Arbor posted that he was giving a gently used TuxMat set away because his lease was up and he didn't want to deal with selling/shipping. He just wanted them picked up soon. Got them this morning, after a 2 hour round-trip and a few minutes to install I now have a set of all-weather mats.

If you see this John, thanks again!!
John, @a2alfaguy, is a good guy, and it's a shame to have him leave the fold.

Tuxmat are tops; I have them as well. I don't know that I'll keep them in past spring, as they are a bit more intensive to clean than just vacuuming carpet and the material more utilitarian than posh. But yeah, for winter and sloppy conditions, they're the absolute best, IMO, so you should enjoy them!
 
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Have the Challenger for one more week and then I will be driving the Giulia. Not going to lie, I will miss this sound (two small revs towards the end)...

 

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Here from Metro Detroit. Posters in this The "you need an Alfa Romeo" thread post peer pressured me into buying an Alfa Romeo and I love it!

Let's back up a bit. The three year lease on the 2017 Dodge Challenger Scat Pack w/6-speed is coming to an end a few months. Since I work from home and don't drive enough to even justify another lease, I had been thinking about buying a car instead. In addition to buying out the Challenger at lease-end, a used Giulia is another option that came to mind (along with many others). After seeing the The "you need an Alfa Romeo" thread post, I found this on Facebook Marketplace...



After owning a BMW 335i w/N54 I was a bit apprehensive about repairs and reliably but I was assured by owners that after the 2017 gremlins had been worked out, they are actually quite reliable. I also asked a friend (Maximum_Download) to talk me out of it but he is a bad influence and encouraged me instead. I took it for a test drive a couple days later and they delivered it to my house yesterday.

It is an one-owner Misano Blue Metallic 2018 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport Q4. The local dealer I bought it from originally leased it to the guy just over two years ago. I looked through the Facebook posts and found some pre-delivery photos from 2018. I know, I am a dork...





The guy who originally leased it, drove it only about 11,000 miles in his first two years before turning it in. He also had it serviced at the same dealer so I have all of the service history to go with it. Not only does the car look and smell like new, but the protective plastic is still on the dead pedal and the warning sticker on the driver side was never even removed...





It has all of the options (except Bi-Xenon)...



I have the Challenger for a few more months so I will mostly drive that until I turn it in. I did drive the Alfa for a bit last night and my initial thoughts are:

  • Great handling.
  • Super quick steering.
  • Peppy acceleration.
  • Beautiful inside and out.
  • Selective dampers really do make a difference.
  • Quick shifts from the ZF8.
  • Comfortable seats.
  • Awesome sunroof.
  • Good headlights (Xenon).
  • Strong brakes but will need to get used to the brake-by-wire feel.
My initial negatives are pretty small:

  • Infotainment system is a bit weak, they should have used UConnect. Also, no touchscreen but has since been rectified on newer model.
  • The easy entry automatic seat thing (moves seat back for ease of exit/entry) is annoying and I cannot turn it off. There is an option to turn it off on the newer models.
  • The engine start/stop is annoying. I know there is a button to deactivate it but it has to be pressed each time. At least there is an easy fix: Start/Stop Deactivator for Giulia/Stelvio.
Love the color (Misano Blue Metallic)...









Interior shots...













I’m picking up this exact car next week. Everything except mine has the upgraded headlights but not the performance package. Congrats on the ride.
 
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