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2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio

Power: 505 hp @ 6500 rpm
Torque: 443 lb-ft @ 2500 rpm

Wheelbase: 111.0 in
Length: 182.6 in
Width: 73.7 in Height: 56.1 in
Passenger volume: 94 cu ft
Cargo volume: 13 cu ft
Curb weight: 3822 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 3.6 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.1 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 13.8 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 19.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.2 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.9 sec @ 121 mph
Top speed (mfr's est): 191 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 143 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.00 g
Fuel Economy, EPA combined/city/highway driving: 20/17/24 mpg - C/D observed: 18 mpg


2016 BMW M3 DCT Competition Package

Power: 444 hp @ 7000 rpm
Torque: 406 lb-ft @ 1850 rpm

Wheelbase: 110.7 in
Length: 184.5 in
Width: 73.9 in Height: 56.3 in
Passenger volume: 96 cu ft
Cargo volume: 17 cu ft
Curb weight: 3651 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 4.0 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.6 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.6 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 21.1 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.6 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.2 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.2 sec @ 120 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 163 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 146 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g
Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 17/24 mpg - C/D observed: 18 mpg


2016 Cadillac ATS-V Sedan Automatic

Power: 464 hp @ 5850 rpm
Torque: 445 lb-ft @ 3500 rpm

Wheelbase: 109.3 in
Length: 184.0 in
Width: 71.3 in Height: 55.7 in
Passenger volume: 84 cu ft
Cargo volume: 10 cu ft
Curb weight: 3800 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.4 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 13.9 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 19.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.1 sec @ 122 mph
Top speed (drag limited, mfr's claim): 185 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 154 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.02 g
Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway: 16/24 mpg - C/D observed: 17 mpg


2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat Automatic

Power: 707 hp @ 6000 [email protected];
Torque: 650 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm

Wheelbase: 120.4 in
Length: 200.8 in
Width: 75.0 in Height: 58.3 in
Curb weight: 4592 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 3.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.2 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 11.7 sec
Zero to 170 mph: 23.1 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 3.7 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 1.7 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.4 sec @ 128 mph
Top speed (drag ltd, mfr's claim): 204 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 153 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.94 g
Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 13/22 mpg - C/D observed: 13 mpg


2015 Mercedes-AMG C63 S Sedan

Power: 503 hp @ 6250 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm

Wheelbase: 111.8 in
Length: 187.2 in
Width: 72.4 in Height: 56.1 in
Passenger volume: 95 cu ft
Cargo volume: 13 cu ft
Curb weight: 3939 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 3.9 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 9.1 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 15.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.2 sec @ 116 mph
Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 180 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 147 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g
Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway: 18/25 mpg - C/D observed: 17 mpg


2017 Mercedes Benz AMG C63 S Coupe

Power: 503 hp @ 6200 rpm
Torque: 516 lb-ft @ 1750 rpm

Wheelbase: 111.8 in
Length: 187.0 in
Width: 73.9 in Height: 55.2 in
Passenger volume: 86 cu ft
Cargo volume: 11 cu ft
Curb weight: 4102 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 3.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 8.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 14.0 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 19.6 sec
Zero to 170 mph: 29.7 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.3 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.3 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 2.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.0 sec @ 121 mph
Top speed (governor limited, mfr's claim): 180 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 151 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.98 g
Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 17/23 mpg - C/D observed: 16 mpg


2016 Lexus GS F

Power: 467 hp @ 7100 rpm
Torque: 389 lb-ft @ 4800 rpm

Wheelbase: 112.2 in
Length: 193.5 in
Width: 72.6 in Height: 56.7 in
Passenger volume: 92 cu ft
Cargo volume: 14 cu ft
Curb weight: 4128 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 4.4 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.3 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 17.5 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 25.2 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.7 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.5 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.9 sec @ 113 mph
Top speed (governor limited, mfr's est): 168 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.93 g
Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway driving: 16/24 mpg - C/D observed: 19 mpg
 

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I should have added, the Giulia Quadrifoglio tested is without the Carbon Ceramic Brakes and Sparco Carbon Fiber Seats.

Although Top Gear and Motor Trend have mentioned the weight of the car being at 3,373 lbs
 

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I know this might be irrelevant, but I just sold my 2012 Lexus IS F to obtain the Giulia Quadrifoglio. So figured I would go ahead and add a comparison also

2011 Lexus IS F

Power: 416 hp @ 6600 rpm
Torque: 371 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm

Wheelbase: 107.5 in
Length: 183.5 in
Width: 71.5 in Height: 55.7 in
Curb weight: 3839 lb

Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.0 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 28.2 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.1 sec @ 110 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 169 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 159 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.90 g
Fuel Economy, EPA city/highway: 16/23 mpg - C/D observed: 18 mpg
 

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I should have added, the Giulia Quadrifoglio tested is without the Carbon Ceramic Brakes and Sparco Carbon Fiber Seats.

Although Top Gear and Motor Trend have mentioned the weight of the car being at 3,373 lbs
To get to the bottom of this, I'd really love to see some pics of a QV on a scale. Tracking a car at 3373 vs 3822 makes quite a bit difference in terms of consumables (e.g. brakes, tires), and overall driving feel.

I had an E92 M3 and while fun, you could really feel all 3700+ lbs of it.
 

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To get to the bottom of this, I'd really love to see some pics of a QV on a scale. Tracking a car at 3373 vs 3822 makes quite a bit difference in terms of consumables (e.g. brakes, tires), and overall driving feel.

I had an E92 M3 and while fun, you could really feel all 3700+ lbs of it.
CF seats and brakes could probably make up the bulk of those 500lbs.

Ill be putting my car on a scale very soon (with no gas in the tank, gotta cheat) hahaha.
 

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Holy moly the Alfa dominated in the quarter-mile aside from the Hellcat, which was designed for that kinda stuff. What I would like to know is what kind of tires were they using and in which vehicles was launch control used. What transmissions were they equipped with
 

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Sadly, I don't think carbon ceramic rotors and those sport seats equal 500lbs. You only save about 10lbs per corner on the brakes (basing this off the weight difference of the CCBs vs Irons on a 911 GT3 - similar size rotor), but let's say 50lbs for the rotors. Probably about 20-25 pound savings per Sparco seat as well. So only 100lbs (if that) weight savings with the CCBs and Sparcos.

Was the M3 they tested equipped with the CCBs? They didn't make any mention of it.

As for the tires, all of these should have been stock tires used on the cars, which means Pilot Super Sports on the M3. Not sure on the other cars, but none of them come stock rolling on 60-treadwear PZero Corsas.
 

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Sadly, I don't think carbon ceramic rotors and those sport seats equal 500lbs. You only save about 10lbs per corner on the brakes (basing this off the weight difference of the CCBs vs Irons on a 911 GT3 - similar size rotor), but let's say 50lbs for the rotors. Probably about 20-25 pound savings per Sparco seat as well. So only 100lbs (if that) weight savings with the CCBs and Sparcos.

Was the M3 they tested equipped with the CCBs? They didn't make any mention of it.

As for the tires, all of these should have been stock tires used on the cars, which means Pilot Super Sports on the M3. Not sure on the other cars, but none of them come stock rolling on 60-treadwear PZero Corsas.
The M3 Car & Driver tested had Carbon Ceramic Brakes (Which cost $8,150)
 

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i think we need to stop bringing up the 3373 lbs curb weight. that's likely the dry weight so it's a useless number. euro auto mags list the weight as tested around 3700 lbs. add the automatic transmission and all the stuff we get standard, and 3800 lbs isnt bad at all.
 
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