So how did the Giulias fare vs the "M" boys.....
BMW venom.....
Are you finding that your Giulia is angering BMW drivers ? Maybe it's just me, but the other day, on my normal commute to my office (in Race mode of course), a random 3 series *hitbox (driven by a very middle aged dude), decided to cross a double yellow line (as I passively moved into the right lane, he was behind me initially) and fly pass the car that was in front of me....I must tell you, I've noticed idiotic behavior like this before (usually from the pimple faced crowd) from drivers of the blue and white fan blade logo.....Maybe it's just me....just wondering....D :wink2:
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So how did the Giulias do against the "M" boys....??
I was just in the kiddie pool up there in LRP yesterday but all the M’s I passed seemed to take it well.:wink2:
The main BMW instructor guy in the classroom was going through some cars he thought were doing well, mentioned some
Giulia’s too and he paused at the end and said something like “oh yeah and that coppery red Guilia who’s that” I thought I was in trouble because the way he mentioned it at the end and so I meekly raised my hand and said “ you mean comp rosso?” And he said really good out there. I was mostly relieved lol
The main BMW instructor guy in the classroom was going through some cars he thought were doing well, mentioned some
Giulia’s too and he paused at the end and said something like “oh yeah and that coppery red Guilia who’s that” I thought I was in trouble because the way he mentioned it at the end and so I meekly raised my hand and said “ you mean comp rosso?” And he said really good out there. I was mostly relieved lol
This has been my experience as well. The GT3 drivers I know have nothing but praise for it. But then again, Porsche enthusiasts in my experience tend to be first and foremost car enthusiasts, and not so much suffering from brand insecurity.While I'm sure the BMW enthusiasts might feel threatened, the P-car crowd is fawning over the QV. A low mileage QV showed up on R-list and they were tripping over themselves with compliments for the QV. There isn't a new Porsche that comps with the QV for price or form.
I was running in the novice group as well but M3's were letting me pass by whenever I popped up in their rearview, drove with an M4 for a session and his 100 extra whp showed in the straight but the Giulia caught him in the corners easily. Overall great day, great crowd of people. Got a good laugh as I was the 4th Alfa in the tech line and I heard the guy checking @JerryNY ahead see me and exclaim "What is this the italian job!?"So how did the Giulias do against the "M" boys....??
Are they left braking and accelerating at the same time? Something seemed to throw off an electronic throttle warning light on a number of early reviews.I beg to differ.......
I exclusively left foot braked the entire 3 sessions a Lime Rock today (I have 2 witnesses from this forum that I gave rides to) and no issues whatsoever.....
So whoever is having issues with LFB, obviously is not doing it correctly and the car is noticing the screw up......
All the instructors who get in my car love it, have nothing but compliments ... lucky for them, I am really inexperienced so the entire group of instructors usually gets seat time, LOL
Anyone with the Eurocompulsion tune tracking their car? I would love to know how it does against the M's.
I was running the corsa exhaust, V2, and P1 tune and the real competition came from the M4. I don’t have a comparison to tracking stock but i know Chaiguy tracked last year with no tune and was running the tune this time around.Anyone with the Eurocompulsion tune tracking their car? I would love to know how it does against the M's.
Curious if there were any "Comp-Pak" M cars thereI was running the corsa exhaust, V2, and P1 tune and the real competition came from the M4. I don’t have a comparison to tracking stock but i know Chaiguy tracked last year with no tune and was running the tune this time around.
When the P2 comes, bam.
The M4 driver said he was running 400whp. I’m not too knowledgeable about bmw variations but that sounds like it would be the Comp-Pak.Curious if there were any "Comp-Pak" M cars there
I’m thinking of going back to Lime Rock in late August, hoping that the P2 is out before then to really give the bmws a show.When the P2 comes, bam.
That sounds light for a comp pak car...many straight M3/M4 w/ 425 have dyno'd at 420 RWHP which means the cars are underrated...The M4 driver said he was running 400whp. I’m not too knowledgeable about bmw variations but that sounds like it would be the Comp-Pak.
I’m thinking of going back to Lime Rock in late August, hoping that the P2 is out before then to really give the bmws a show.
reason why I ask only is that a Comp-Pak M3 holds its own better than a stock M3. Difference is really driver related at the track...moreover, just my opinion, but I believe that a QV is also underrated in the HP dept. unfortunately putting a QV on the dyno is much more problematic than the M3.
I believe Eurocompulsion tested the Quad and it turned out to be real close to the published 505.
really??? they have a special Dyno??....last I recall the issue with putting a QV on the dyno was that you could not get solid pulls because the cars electronics shut the car down(not literally)...I believe Eurocompulsion tested the Quad and it turned out to be real close to the published 505.
there a thread on this??
Thanks:grin2:
really??? they have a special Dyno??....last I recall the issue with putting a QV on the dyno was that you could not get solid pulls because the cars electronics shut the car down(not literally)...
there a thread on this??
Thanks:grin2:
https://shopeurocompulsion.net/blogs/news/successful-north-american-alfa-romeo-giulia-quadrifoglio-dyno
We use a 4WD HLS (Hydraulically Linked Dyno). One of two located in the states (that we are aware of).
well that answers that....so then the QV and the Comp-Pak cars make similar RWHP...
is this DYNO located in NY?? or did the car with NY tags go to the Dyno??..
Thanks
is this DYNO located in NY?? or did the car with NY tags go to the Dyno??..
Thanks
That is our car, I drove to our Oklahoma shop where the Dyno is located. Broke the first trip there into a two day journey. Drove 23+hrs straight on the way home, definitely a bonding experience between man and machine. The car did great both ways with zero issues.well that answers that....so then the QV and the Comp-Pak cars make similar RWHP...
is this DYNO located in NY?? or did the car with NY tags go to the Dyno??..
Thanks
So what’s the issue with the QV on some
dyno’s? It has a sixth sense about being tested and refuses to play nice?
I don’t think the rated HP is far off and I feel the torque is maybe under rated the way the car pulls even up hills. An almost 2 ton vehicle that can run mid 3’s to 60 and geared to still top 190? 500hp seems about right, it’d be quicker even off the line if it had AWD like the Stelvio QV, which is significantly heavier, and has been hitting 3.3 to 60 with the same engine?
dyno’s? It has a sixth sense about being tested and refuses to play nice?
I don’t think the rated HP is far off and I feel the torque is maybe under rated the way the car pulls even up hills. An almost 2 ton vehicle that can run mid 3’s to 60 and geared to still top 190? 500hp seems about right, it’d be quicker even off the line if it had AWD like the Stelvio QV, which is significantly heavier, and has been hitting 3.3 to 60 with the same engine?
Was getting gasoline and pulled on the otherside of the pump from a new BMW 3 series owner.. well, he looked over at my girl and when I started to speak to him he said.. Nice Car.. then he rapidly got into the car and sped off.. lol . I am the ONLY Alfa in this area.. so
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