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In town I get everywhere between 10 and 15l/100km , depending on traffic.
My record worst is maybe around 15-16l/100km.
I drive aggressive sometimes with pedal to the metal , but not all the time.
With my style of driving, I think driving in A will give more consumption every time, as I push the pedal more to have more response. Around here is not very healthy to overtake vehicles slowly and stay longer in the opposite lane.
I am not complaining. It is normal consumption.
I only use 100 octane fuel from Shell. 98 is not recommended in Europe. 95 is, but higher , the better for the engine .
There is nothing wrong with the car. If I want to get all of the A mode, I must drive with the trucks and busses and not overtaking them, which is very dangerous here.We have one of the highest death rates here, from auto crashes and accidents in the world. It is a war, man. If I have to monitor all the time the gas pedal and terrain, to use coasting I will be most possibly be involved sooner in accident , than driving little faster and concentrate on..... just the driving.
I don't have V6. It is Q4 280hp 2.0T engine, Veloce.
Highway speed here is 140km/h , but driving with 160km/h will not have serious consequences. ....Especially if you use Waze and radar detector. 馃槅
With 160-170km/h average consumption is about the same like in town - around 12 -13 l/100km. With 180- 190km/h - consumption around 14-15 l/100km. But I don't drive that fast,...usually.
Other roads, between the cities are mostly 90km/h , which means most people drive with 100-110km/h . With that speed and driving normal/not too aggressive, but not slow/ , consumption, around 10 l/100km. If not overtaking very often and using the coasting in N mode I can get about the same as with manual paddles n D mode - 8 l/100km.
Maybe if I drive with 80-90km/h, not more, not overtaking of any kind and using coasting when possible, without any load in the vehicle, without AC and using the wind in my direction , in A mode ,....I will get 7 l/100km consumption.
After all I prefer to be safer and drive as best as possible depending on traffic conditions, which includes often fast overtaking. That is why, more powerful engines and good handling cars can save you, not only the good brakes.
I am totally fine with consumption and really enjoy the car very, very much !!!
If I wanted boring, ugly and unresponsive, low consumption car, I should have bought some Toyota .
Then it sounds like your original statement "I don't know how do you get such mileage " is not really true, since you drive very aggressively in a Stelvio and most drivers would rather avoid the safety issues and penalties associated with such behavior. In most of the USA getting caught driving 160kph will earn you a stay in jail. Your high speed limits and even higher driving speed is why the vehicle death rate is so high.

And yes, I ignore the speed limit when overtaking while driving in the opposing traffic lane. I agree that it is dangerous to do otherwise. Even then I can pass 4 or 5 cars without achieving 160kph and with the pedal to the metal the whole time. However when overtaking while driving on a multi-lane road, the only reason to accelerate to a high speed is that someone else is behaving in a dangerous fashion or the rules of the road are insane (Germany?).
 

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Many years ago, I was driving my first Generation Turbo Mitsubishi Eclipse about 3 o 4 in the morning, crossing rural Alabama, and came behind to a line of semi's. There was a lot of dust in the air, it was hot and dark, and humid, and I pulled out to pass, and as I blew by the first truck, I found another, then another, then more and more, and I was going too fast to brake and pull in between them. In the haze I could see no oncoming lights, so I just kept the throttle matted, and when I finally pulled in front of the lead truck, I seemed to be going really fast, and glanced down at my speedo, and it was spinning past 135 mph. Not my intention, nor safe at all.

A few years ago, on a rural Nebraska road, came over a gentle hill, and could see for miles, and there were no cars to be seen, and no aircraft in the air. I was in my GT3, and thought "why not?" So downshifted and accelerated up thru the gears. I never looked down at my speedo, but my GT3 was rated to top out at 191 mph. I probably was near that, when I eased up. Of course, hitting a rabbit or coyote at that speed would be a fatal event.

Washed my Misano QV yesterday, then a nice coat of a BlackFire wax product. Looks pretty spiffy now.

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I can honestly say my car has never been in A mode. 98% of the time it is in D. Even the highway. I only drop to N on long interstate drives when traffic is light and I am using ACC. The rest of the time I want the extra performance at hand in case I need it (sometimes acceleration is the correct solution to a problem, not braking).

Beside, if the Alfa's MPG is less than the MB I can use it as an excuse to take the wife's car on long boring drives and keep the miles off the Giulia :)
 

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Managed 29 in A one time, did 26 over about 500 miles in A yesterday, though a lot of up and down going through the mountains each way.
 

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Managed 29 in A one time, did 26 over about 500 miles in A yesterday, though a lot of up and down going through the mountains each way.
IMO, anything over 25MPG in a QV is a sign of more restraint than I would have.
The jury is still out regarding if A is harmful to a QV engine.

I think above about 100MPH if pretty much anything goes wrong you are in trouble. Cars are hard enough to control when a tire blows out at 60MPH. Your chance of getting a large bird through the windshield goes up considerably. You chance of avoiding an impact with a deer go down considerably.
 

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IMO, anything over 25MPG in a QV is a sign of more restraint than I would have.
The jury is still out regarding if A is harmful to a QV engine.
Not a whole lot of restraint, I did a good 85-90 the three hours back unless stuck in a train.

I was under the impression people thought it was good to use A to keep the mechanism moving once in a while.
 

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I was under the impression people thought it was good to use A to keep the mechanism moving once in a while.
There is a mechanism? I thought it was 100% electronic turn-off of fuel injectors and spark.
QV engines are reported to have issues with reduced compression on certain cylinders (usually cylinder 1?). Is that related to using A mode? I dunno.
 

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Wow that's nuts. I did a 5 hr highway drive last month in my Ti and only got 27mpg in A mode.

Now with daily commuting, mix of city and highway, I get 23.9 mpg. Highway I'm in A but otherwise I always drive in Dynamic mode. I want the car to feel stiff and lively at all times!
 

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Wow that's nuts. I did a 5 hr highway drive last month in my Ti and only got 27mpg in A mode.

Now with daily commuting, mix of city and highway, I get 23.9 mpg. Highway I'm in A but otherwise I always drive in Dynamic mode. I want the car to feel stiff and lively at all times!
Something wrong there鈥.6-7 hours of highway driving in A for me at average speed of 65mph consistently yields 39-40 mpg.
 
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I鈥檓 beginning to think that I can best Mario Andretti. I鈥檓 lucky if I can pull about 24 mpg with some significant highway jaunts... and I rarely go out of N. When lease end comes, it makes me want to stray to a new one, but I look at her and I hear the porno music.
 

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Some of your QV numbers are astounding! I'm averaging around 14 miles per gallon.

Just turned 6,000 miles this past weekend, and I see my MPG circle hasn't moved at all in between where it was back at 3k miles.

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There is nothing wrong with the car. If I want to get all of the A mode, I must drive with the trucks and busses and not overtaking them, which is very dangerous here.We have one of the highest death rates here, from auto crashes and accidents in the world. It is a war, man. If I have to monitor all the time the gas pedal and terrain, to use coasting I will be most possibly be involved sooner in accident , than driving little faster and concentrate on..... just the driving.
I don't have V6. It is Q4 280hp 2.0T engine, Veloce.
Highway speed here is 140km/h , but driving with 160km/h will not have serious consequences. ....Especially if you use Waze and radar detector. 馃槅
Having had the pleasure of driving in your country, along the coastal E87, I agree! There are portions of world-class roads with beautiful scenery, and other times, especially in towns, it's a warzone. Somehow, it all works, but I'd certainly would have felt much more safe if I had been behind the wheel of an Alfa... rather than driving an underpowered Dacia that I had to make-do with while visiting your country on holiday.
 
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Then it sounds like your original statement "I don't know how do you get such mileage " is not really true, since you drive very aggressively in a Stelvio and most drivers would rather avoid the safety issues and penalties associated with such behavior. In most of the USA getting caught driving 160kph will earn you a stay in jail. Your high speed limits and even higher driving speed is why the vehicle death rate is so high.

And yes, I ignore the speed limit when overtaking while driving in the opposing traffic lane. I agree that it is dangerous to do otherwise. Even then I can pass 4 or 5 cars without achieving 160kph and with the pedal to the metal the whole time. However when overtaking while driving on a multi-lane road, the only reason to accelerate to a high speed is that someone else is behaving in a dangerous fashion or the rules of the road are insane (Germany?).
Going to jail, for just 20km/h above the limit /140km/h/is not good man, and very silly, if you ask me. Especially on highway. Stating that speed is the killer, is the same as stating that guns are killing people, not the people themselves. The reasons for the higher death rates here are mostly the crappy condition of the roads and that, the most of the vehicles are more than 20 years old and bad conditioned. Lower drivers skills also.Most of the drivers here are not disciplined and not tolerant. Sure, I am not driving insanely fast and never advise speeding more than 10-20km/h above the limit. I am extremely tolerant and never disturb and interfere with the other drivers, but I really hate when someone before me is overtaking on the highway, getting in the last moment in front of me and moving with 90km/h, when the limit is 140km/h. We don't have lowest speed allowed here, which if you ask me, is even more dangerous than higher speed.
 

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Going to jail, for just 20km/h above the limit /140km/h/is not good man, and very silly, if you ask me. Especially on highway. Stating that speed is the killer, is the same as stating that guns are killing people, not the people themselves. The reasons for the higher death rates here are mostly the crappy condition of the roads and that, the most of the vehicles are more than 20 years old and bad conditioned. Lower drivers skills also.Most of the drivers here are not disciplined and not tolerant. Sure, I am not driving insanely fast and never advise speeding more than 10-20km/h above the limit. I am extremely tolerant and never disturb and interfere with the other drivers, but I really hate when someone before me is overtaking on the highway, getting in the last moment in front of me and moving with 90km/h, when the limit is 140km/h. We don't have lowest speed allowed here, which if you ask me, is even more dangerous than higher speed.
No, 40kmh over the 120kmh speed limit* sends you to jail. More than 10kmh over the speed limit gets you an expensive citation.

Giulia is rated to save you from severe injury in a 56kmh crash into a solid wall. Any faster and your chance of severe injury increases rapidly with the amount of speed increase. There is no question that high speeds kill. Low speeds are only intrinsically dangerous if the traffic is mixed with vehicles travelling at high speeds.

The speed thing gets complicated when you add a study of accident rates. Many collisions do not result in significant injuries, but really ruin the participants day. People become inattentive and more likely to be involved in an accident at low speeds, so that there is an ideal speed range. Also, if you don't count driving in the commute as living, low speeds steal away your life one little piece at a time. Thus, there is an ideal speed range on the highway and given the incompetence of the average driver and the poor condition of his car, IMO, 140kmh is too fast and 160kmh is simply dangerous.

* In California the highest speed limit is 70MPH = 112kmh. Some states are more restrictive. Numerous states allow 75MPH = 121kmh and a few allow 80mph=129kmh.
 

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Having had the pleasure of driving in your country, along the coastal E87, I agree! There are portions of world-class roads with beautiful scenery, and other times, especially in towns, it's a warzone. Somehow, it all works, but I'd certainly would have felt much more safe if I had been behind the wheel of an Alfa... rather than driving an underpowered Dacia that I had to make-do with while visiting your country on holiday.
Nice to know you visited us. :) You are very welcome here. So, you know what I am talking about. Thanks for understanding. :)
 

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No, 40kmh over the 120kmh speed limit* sends you to jail. More than 10kmh over the speed limit gets you an expensive citation.

Giulia is rated to save you from severe injury in a 56kmh crash into a solid wall. Any faster and your chance of severe injury increases rapidly with the amount of speed increase. There is no question that high speeds kill. Low speeds are only intrinsically dangerous if the traffic is mixed with vehicles travelling at high speeds.

The speed thing gets complicated when you add a study of accident rates. Many collisions do not result in significant injuries, but really ruin the participants day. People become inattentive and more likely to be involved in an accident at low speeds, so that there is an ideal speed range. Also, if you don't count driving in the commute as living, low speeds steal away your life one little piece at a time. Thus, there is an ideal speed range on the highway and given the incompetence of the average driver and the poor condition of his car, IMO, 140kmh is too fast and 160kmh is simply dangerous.

* In California the highest speed limit is 70MPH = 112kmh. Some states are more restrictive. Numerous states allow 75MPH = 121kmh and a few allow 80mph=129kmh.
Yes. I agree totally with you. I always drive within the limits in populated areas.I allow my self just 20 above limits , sometimes, in non populated areas, which are the most roads here.If they catch me, I pay my tickets. ;) I was talking about our limit on the highway- autobahn, although it is not autobahn at all and the asphalt is not so good usually, but the limit is 140km/h and the coppers will not stop or photo you if you drive with 150km/h. I don't think driving with that speed is dangerous, unless you car is not up to this or your skills. The perception of speed, reactions and movement is not the same among the drivers. Just driving the vehicle does not make you good driver. This comes with training and experience.Most driving schools, never train you for extreme situations or higher speed reactions. I think , this is essential for car safety.
If I was going to drive, all the time with no more than 90km/h , why the hell did I get this car, exactly ??? Do you have answer to this ?
Why don't we get just the Prius, or even better , traveling with the bus or train......?
 

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If I was going to drive, all the time with no more than 90km/h , why the hell did I get this car, exactly ??? Do you have answer to this ?
Why don't we get just the Prius, or even better , traveling with the bus or train......?
Giulia is about handling far more than high speeds. There are cars that are much more comfortable to drive at high speed on the highway than Giulia.

I bought my Giulia to navigate Sonora Pass (and similar mountain roads, such as Monitor Pass) in California. It is about 30 miles of road where 90kmh is a high speed and it is not uncommon to encounter other cars travelling at half that speed. Sonora Pass lies between the house where I live and the house that I am constructing to move to later in life. With Giulia I can get over the pass 10 minutes faster* than in my previous car. Sonora Pass is the only paved highway that I have encountered that has 4 large signs that essentially ask "do you really want to attempt this road?" The signs are posted at the conjunction of Dead Man Creek and the Stanislaus River.

FWIW: Monitor Pass is once again on fire right now <sigh>. Reference the Tamarac fire.

* Includes the 30 miles of more mild mountain road that leads up to Sonora Pass
 
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