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I have had my Giulia Ti for 60 days now and want to share a few issues.
1. Had the "service electronic throttle control" warning go on three times which put the car in "safe mode." Seems to have been caused in conjunction with the remote start. Dealer did a software update and it is fine now.
2. The comfort lock on the driver side was sticking making the keyless entry ineffective. The dealer made an adjustment and Have not had further issues.
3. Amplifier shorted out causing a surge or loud pop in the speakers. According to the dealer this is a known issue caused by water leaking into the amp box via either the driver rear blinker casing or trunk gap (I never got a firm confirmation). The dealer replaced the amp and wire connectors then used special caulk to seal the holes. Seems fine now. Lots of rain in Seattle.
4. Still have some rough idle issues when cold, dealer has not been able to fix it. Warms in a couple minutes.
5. I Really wish the auto start/stop would recall the previous preference between uses (my BMW 328d did). It kills the engine at the most in opportune times. I asked the dealer to pursue this, but no luck yet. A software update please Alfa!

Thought I would share in case anyone else has similar problems. Still love Giulia even though she has spent 1/3 of her life in repair! Hopefully the bugs are all worked out now!
 

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I have had my Giulia Ti for 60 days now and want to share a few issues.
1. Had the "service electronic throttle control" warning go on three times which put the car in "safe mode." Seems to have been caused in conjunction with the remote start. Dealer did a software update and it is fine now.
2. The comfort lock on the driver side was sticking making the keyless entry ineffective. The dealer made an adjustment and Have not had further issues.
3. Amplifier shorted out causing a surge or loud pop in the speakers. According to the dealer this is a known issue caused by water leaking into the amp box via either the driver rear blinker casing or trunk gap (I never got a firm confirmation). The dealer replaced the amp and wire connectors then used special caulk to seal the holes. Seems fine now. Lots of rain in Seattle.
4. Still have some rough idle issues when cold, dealer has not been able to fix it. Warms in a couple minutes.
5. I Really wish the auto start/stop would recall the previous preference between uses (my BMW 328d did). It kills the engine at the most in opportune times. I asked the dealer to pursue this, but no luck yet. A software update please Alfa!

Thought I would share in case anyone else has similar problems. Still love Giulia even though she has spent 1/3 of her life in repair! Hopefully the bugs are all worked out now!

issues 1 & 3 you experienced were common in these batches...they were addressed by your dealer correctly...not unique to the Ti effected the Quad as well.
Issue #2 some guys have had it others not...myself no...
Issue #5 can only really be described as a 'design flaw"?......something they 'forgot' to address...lets see if there is a fix down the road...
 

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My Giulia base model is in the shop as of day 43 of ownership for the same "service electronic throttle control" warning. Mine didn't go into safe mode, but did illuminate the check engine light after the warning went away. It's currently at the dealer and I'm awaiting an update...

On #4, I also have the rough stuttering in the first minute or so of driving. It's annoying because it happens every single time I go for a drive, but does go away quickly.

On #5, YES! +1 that!

My only other annoyance is that the infotainment doesn't automatically reconnect to my phone when I get back in. Yeah, it's just one click to get it reconnected, but it's annoying. My previous car--a lowly Mazda3--not only reconnected but re-started playing the same song from the same point as when the car was turned off.

Oh, and the pillar seatbelt points are annoyingly low...
 

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My Giulia base model is in the shop as of day 43 of ownership for the same "service electronic throttle control" warning. Mine didn't go into safe mode, but did illuminate the check engine light after the warning went away. It's currently at the dealer and I'm awaiting an update...

On #4, I also have the rough stuttering in the first minute or so of driving. It's annoying because it happens every single time I go for a drive, but does go away quickly.

On #5, YES! +1 that!

My only other annoyance is that the infotainment doesn't automatically reconnect to my phone when I get back in. Yeah, it's just one click to get it reconnected, but it's annoying. My previous car--a lowly Mazda3--not only reconnected but re-started playing the same song from the same point as when the car was turned off.

Oh, and the pillar seatbelt points are annoyingly low...

I also have the issue on #4! its a rough idle and i experience very brief stuttering or misfires in the engine. I also feel the engine rocking a bit then i calms down. Why does this happen?

Seatbealts - I also agree with you on this. The seat belt retainer moves quiet easily and its annoying because it does not hold fastener in place effectively.
 

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I have had my Giulia Ti for 60 days now and want to share a few issues.
1. Had the "service electronic throttle control" warning go on three times which put the car in "safe mode." Seems to have been caused in conjunction with the remote start. Dealer did a software update and it is fine now.
2. The comfort lock on the driver side was sticking making the keyless entry ineffective. The dealer made an adjustment and Have not had further issues.
3. Amplifier shorted out causing a surge or loud pop in the speakers. According to the dealer this is a known issue caused by water leaking into the amp box via either the driver rear blinker casing or trunk gap (I never got a firm confirmation). The dealer replaced the amp and wire connectors then used special caulk to seal the holes. Seems fine now. Lots of rain in Seattle.
4. Still have some rough idle issues when cold, dealer has not been able to fix it. Warms in a couple minutes.
5. I Really wish the auto start/stop would recall the previous preference between uses (my BMW 328d did). It kills the engine at the most in opportune times. I asked the dealer to pursue this, but no luck yet. A software update please Alfa!

Thought I would share in case anyone else has similar problems. Still love Giulia even though she has spent 1/3 of her life in repair! Hopefully the bugs are all worked out now!
When was your car built?
Did the dealer provide a loaner?
 

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Service electronic throttle control. Dealer did update and the light came back on as I was leaving the dealership. I will have to bring it back. They also did a update on the auto stop/start, I am unsure of what they addressed with the update, they advised me after it was completed.

Rubbing noise parts tag sticker on the axles, and zip tied abs wiring.

Glovebox lock broke, never locked it had to replace glove box.
 

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Re #5- my macan remembered last setting.. My Dealer said if the auto start stop was used by NHTSA for MPG testing, in order to AR to qualify, then it can't be disabled
 

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I am getting a little scared off at this point, I can honestly say that it is the most fun I had driving a car in that price range. (Giulia TI) vs my previous ownership of a BMW 335XI, Infiniti G37 and my current ride Audi A5.


I have then started to read all of the reliability issues surrounding this car. I took notice when the dealer took me for a test drive and disabled the economy mode turn off feature.


I have read multiple issues with the car turning off on the expressway and most recently I came across this review by consumer reports


http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...giulia-ti-basically-lives-dealer-service-bay/


I was currently waiting until August so I can order the TI with the Apple Carplay/Android GPS system, but the more I have researched, the more I question the reliability and build quality of these cars.


I even sent an email to my sales rep, who has not responded back, so I take that as another negative sign.


I really want this car, it is the best ride in its price range, but if it not going to last, I am going to have to look elsewhere
 

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Don't be scared!

I am getting a little scared off at this point . . . I really want this car, it is the best ride in its price range, but if it not going to last, I am going to have to look elsewhere
This is easy for me to say, but don't allow these message boards to scare you off. Nobody gets on forums and blogs like this to say "My car runs great and I have no problems." People get on when they have an issue, no matter how small (there's at least three threads on here talking about front license plate holders). This creates a skewed view of reality. The negative posts always get more attention, because nobody wants to read a thread titled, "Everything's Fine".
So I am going to contradict my own statement and say, "My car runs great and I have no problems." I have an AWD Ti Lusso, and I love it. It is an absolute blast to drive. And check out how gorgeous it is in my photo below.
I am coming off a 3-year Audi A4 lease and I had an Infiniti G37 before that. Both were excellent cars, but the Giulia is in a class of its own when it comes to pure driving pleasure. I kid you not. I sometimes go out in the evening and just drive around for the pure joy of it. I never did that over the 3 years I owned my Audi.
So don't allow these anecdotal reports to keep you from getting the car you know you want.
 

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I am getting a little scared off at this point
Also, I suffered the stall/limp mode issue. So I went searching for an answer. I found this forum and joined. I'll bet a lot of others did too. That means there may be a higher than normal amount of people with that issue here. Plus, all the other things mentioned in here - we all joined as a support group.
 

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Granted there have been some issues, but I think the joy that comes from driving the car outweighs the potential negatives. I've found that the certainties in life are: You will die, you will pay your taxes and you will have car trouble if you have a car. Once you've accepted that -- then enjoy the car. Not sure about waiting for the electronic feldercarb is worth it as those systems can be the most troublesome. Don't get me wrong -- I enjoy the integration with smartphones -- but I'm more interested in driving. Even the radio seems like a distraction at times.
 

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Also, I suffered the stall/limp mode issue. So I went searching for an answer. I found this forum and joined. I'll bet a lot of others did too. That means there may be a higher than normal amount of people with that issue here. Plus, all the other things mentioned in here - we all joined as a support group.
Thanks for the feedback, I have mine spec'd out, just can't decide if I wan the metallic black or the tri coat white, I saw both. I normally would get white, but My A5 is the Artic White and wanted a different color, The black with those rims looks sooo nice, but we all know how hard black cars are to keep clean.

The price is extremely reasonable, I am going to get a fully loaded model TI Sport with the Leather package for the dashboard, that is nice. August can't come soon enough, but I need to be patient so I can get the upgraded Navi. :nerd:
 

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If your primary desire in a car is problem free first year, and long term durability and low maintenance, a Japanese product like Lexus, Toyota, Honda etc. are your best bet plus make sure you don't get the first year.
Still you can have recalls - even Toyota knows that...

If you are about the driving experience - the feel of the car - exclusivity - passion of the interior and exterior design - the power: I think you know which direction you need to go.
I have driven and own lots of cars, I can tell you the $6 Billion they spent on this product line (design led by Ferrari) and the state of the art factory was money well spent (for whoever ends up owning one of these - not the actual business model if the sales end up low).

Will there be issues - especially early on - definitely.
This car was brought from new design to ready to manufacture in 2.5 years.
The wise move would be to wait a year or two.
What did I do - followed my heart and passion and got one.
With the help of this forum, we all can help each other with advice and see what solutions may be to common problems.

All I want to do is drive this car.
I traded a 2014 Camaro ZL1.
Still have a 2004 STi, a 2003 Viper and 300ZXTwin Turbo, and a Viper truck.

This car is indeed special - VERY special!
 

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I am getting a little scared off at this point, I can honestly say that it is the most fun I had driving a car in that price range. (Giulia TI) vs my previous ownership of a BMW 335XI, Infiniti G37 and my current ride Audi A5.
I just came from a G. The G series was a great driving series of cars, better than the Q50 line, which have become very numb. The Giulia has lighter steering but I think everything else makes is just as fun or moreso to drive.
 

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I just came from a G. The G series was a great driving series of cars, better than the Q50 line, which have become very numb. The Giulia has lighter steering but I think everything else makes is just as fun or moreso to drive.
I had the G37S and have to say I would rate that third in driving experience. My 2010 BMW 335XI (sport and premium package) was 1st, Audi 2nd (very close, just lacks the horsepower) and Infiniti 3rd. It just felt to lose and not as connected to the road as the other two. That being said the Giulia was on another level.
 

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I am getting a little scared off at this point, I can honestly say that it is the most fun I had driving a car in that price range. (Giulia TI) vs my previous ownership of a BMW 335XI, Infiniti G37 and my current ride Audi A5.


I have then started to read all of the reliability issues surrounding this car. I took notice when the dealer took me for a test drive and disabled the economy mode turn off feature.


I have read multiple issues with the car turning off on the expressway and most recently I came across this review by consumer reports


http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...giulia-ti-basically-lives-dealer-service-bay/


I was currently waiting until August so I can order the TI with the Apple Carplay/Android GPS system, but the more I have researched, the more I question the reliability and build quality of these cars.


I even sent an email to my sales rep, who has not responded back, so I take that as another negative sign.


I really want this car, it is the best ride in its price range, but if it not going to last, I am going to have to look elsewhere
I asked a service rep today at a dealer if he'd ever heard of the stalling/limp mode issues and he said no. Five minutes later on the lot I run into an owner with a Ti who just had his car bought back under the lemon law after the engine cut out on the freeway (which also happened to a QV owner on here).
 

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This is easy for me to say, but don't allow these message boards to scare you off. Nobody gets on forums and blogs like this to say "My car runs great and I have no problems." People get on when they have an issue, no matter how small (there's at least three threads on here talking about front license plate holders). This creates a skewed view of reality. The negative posts always get more attention, because nobody wants to read a thread titled, "Everything's Fine".
So I am going to contradict my own statement and say, "My car runs great and I have no problems." I have an AWD Ti Lusso, and I love it. It is an absolute blast to drive. And check out how gorgeous it is in my photo below.
I am coming off a 3-year Audi A4 lease and I had an Infiniti G37 before that. Both were excellent cars, but the Giulia is in a class of its own when it comes to pure driving pleasure. I kid you not. I sometimes go out in the evening and just drive around for the pure joy of it. I never did that over the 3 years I owned my Audi.
So don't allow these anecdotal reports to keep you from getting the car you know you want.
Sure, but the number of owners on here who have had these problems (stalling, limp mode, engine dying) is non-trivial, though still a minority. I see no reason why the sample of owners on this forum is that unrepresentative.
 

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Service electronic throttle control. Dealer did update and the light came back on as I was leaving the dealership. I will have to bring it back. They also did a update on the auto stop/start, I am unsure of what they addressed with the update, they advised me after it was completed.

Rubbing noise parts tag sticker on the axles, and zip tied abs wiring.

Glovebox lock broke, never locked it had to replace glove box.
Did they fix the service e-throttle problem?
 

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A small part of a small number

Sure, but the number of owners on here who have had these problems (stalling, limp mode, engine dying) is non-trivial, though still a minority. I see no reason why the sample of owners on this forum is that unrepresentative.
Cyirush, on what do you base your statement, that the number of owners experiencing issues such as stalling, limp mode or engine dying is "non-trivial"? First of all, the percentage of overall Giulia owners who participate in this site is likely a very very small number. I'd guess it's in the single digits. Beyond that, what percentage of those on this site have actually experienced these types of issues? Again, I'd say it is small - and don't forget this page includes subscribers from all over the world. Therefore, a small percentage of a very very small number is downright miniscule. Certainly not enough to allow anyone to be able to conclude that it is representative of what is actually going on out there with the car.


People who have problems go out and look for sites like this to discuss their problem and look for help. That's why you see what appear to be a lot of problems, and why I continue to believe you get a skewed view of reality from sites like this.
 

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People who have problems go out and look for sites like this to discuss their problem and look for help. That's why you see what appear to be a lot of problems, and why I continue to believe you get a skewed view of reality from sites like this.
There most certainly a sample bias here. I joined this forum to complain about the stalling! Now, I didn't somehow start getting the stalling because of the forum but looks like ~680 Giulia a month are selling in the US, http://carsalesbase.com/us-car-sales-data/alfa-romeo/alfa-romeo-giulia/ , there are far, far fewer persons on this forum but 32% of us have suffered it. I think at those rates Alfa would have said something more loudly to its owners or maybe even NHTSA.
 
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