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  1. Alfa Romeo Giulia General Discussion
    I think it sums things up pretty well. People know the car is great to drive but Alfa hasn't done anything to fix their reliability perception https://jalopnik.com/here-are-the-great-cars-youd-never-own-1847761899
  2. Alfa Romeo Giulia General Discussion
    I was surprised to see that the M8, the flagship car of BMW, posted the same nurburgring time as the qv. I thought it would be faster for being almost twice the price, almost a second quicker to 60, and 100+ more hp/torque...
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