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Spring choice for 2018 QV

Ordered my QV from Johnson in Annapolis in early Feb 2018 and delivered April 23 - very smooth.
Fender gaps are pretty huge so I'm going to lower a bit - for style.

H&R advertises drop of -1.4"
Madness has their Euro source springs listed at -0.8"

After researching this forum, it seems that early production cars (at least first half of 2017) are about 5/8" lower than my car. My question is: what is the reference ride height being used to quote the lowering of a particular spring set? If the H&R -1.4 is reference my ride height, then that would be perfect. If the H&R reference is to early 2017 ride height, well then maybe that is a little too much.
On the other hand, the Madness springs at -.8 inches is just right for an early 2017 but not enough for my 2018. See my problem?

For reference, my 2018 fender height at 500 miles is:

Front: 27 9/16"
Rear: 27 14/16" (mid fuel)
Center of splitter leading edge: 7 1/4"

Anybody have details?
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Here are my stock 2017 QV measurements

Build Date: 4/28/2017
5,500 current miles
Front: 26 5/8
Rear: 27 1/16 (3/4 tank of gas)
Front splitter: 5 3/4

Very interesting to find the early 2017s are lower.
I suspect they raised them to minimize scraping over speed bumps, etc. but I sure could see how it would affect the appearance - fender gaps.

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I am very happy with the ST Lowering Springs. Mine is a 17 BTW.
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I am very happy with the ST Lowering Springs. Mine is a 17 BTW.
I gotta say. That is very sharp. What a great combo. Trofeo whilte with bright tecnico. Very nice. Subtle elegance while looking stout and ready to roll
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What’s your car doing there Chris? Surely you’re not one of the SLOW employees the sign references!

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H&R's or ST's on a 2018 QV then?

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I am very happy with the ST Lowering Springs. Mine is a 17 BTW.
Ok, then anybody have the H&R's or ST's on a 2018 QV with photos or measurements?

From the forum crawling I did, it seems that the early 2017 builds were nearly an inch lower than second half of '17 and '18. Probably those second half '17 cars are '18 model year, just guessing.

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Hmmm, haven't heard of ST spring manufacturer.

Does Swift offer a spring for the QV yet? That's a manufacturer I trust.

I like H&R, but IMO, 1.4" is too much of a drop.

Are the 2017 OEM springs available for purchase? That was the route I'd go if I was unhappy with the increased ride height/fender gap of the 2018+ OEM spring.

Any specs for the ST spring? The 0.8" drop does look perfect...just want to make sure it performs as well.

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'17 vs '18 ride height and spring drop

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Hmmm, haven't heard of ST spring manufacturer.

Does Swift offer a spring for the QV yet? That's a manufacturer I trust.

I like H&R, but IMO, 1.4" is too much of a drop.

Are the 2017 OEM springs available for purchase? That was the route I'd go if I was unhappy with the increased ride height/fender gap of the 2018+ OEM spring.

Any specs for the ST spring? The 0.8" drop does look perfect...just want to make sure it performs as well.
Agree 1.4" is too much drop for street if starting out with the lower ride height that the earlier 2017's seem to have. That would give a total drop of about 2.3" for my car which is more than I want.

BUT, if the 1.4" were measured on late 2017's and 2018's, then it would be good. See my issue? Its a frame of reference question. Too bad the spring folks don't give ride height instead of "drop".

Moving on....

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I was in a dealer today buying my car and I saw a 2017 and a 2018 car right next to each other. The difference in the wheel-gap between the two cars was really noticeable - the 2017 car looked significantly better.

Curious, I walked over and used my hand to measure the distance between the tire and the top of the wheel well on the front wheels of both cars.

On the 2018 I could fit my entire hand (perpendicular to the ground) between the tire and top of wheel well. In fact, there was some room left over.

On the 2017 I could not even come close to getting my hand in.
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Yes. The gaps are quite large when brand new. I know there will be some settle, but don't expect more than 0.5 inch. That still leaves a sizable gap. I agree that a 1.4" drop is a little aggressive feeling to me since this is only about looks (car is plenty **** fast as is). But you know - it needs to have the right look in every respect. I will go with ST's or the Madness springs most likely for about 1" drop and then follow up with actual ride height change numbers. In a few months.

My splitter is at 7.25" to center. I've also got a GTI daily driver lowered on Eibachs with a Maxton splitter at 3.5" off the tarmac. I haven't hit it yet, but then again I've got a few years of practice stopping half way into parking spots.

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