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Amazing first 2.0ti with a QUAD Exhaust?

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#1 · (Edited)
It's finally done.
The moment I saw the quad tipped exhaust on the QV, I knew I had to have it
Many hundreds of dollars later and some custom work, it's ready! Well it's about 90% ready, I still have to put the plastic covers under the exhaust back
Regardless.
Installed is a BORLA Pro XS, free flow design with perforated piping for noise cancellation 2x2.25in 2x2.25out
This exhaust provided the exact sound I wanted which was
-to actually be able to hear the exhaust when driving it hard
-to not be able to hear the exhaust or ANY drone while driving in the freeway or the city (uphill etc)
-to give it a deep, non-raspy (civic fart can) sound and any rpm range

Overall I'm super happy and would like you all to see the pics for yourself, it took a lot of research and time to get these tips perfect, I even went and drafted the actual tips on the QV haha :)
Enjoy!

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Here's the sound clip
https://youtu.be/AFDDA-oEe3c
 
#5 ·
So... when can we hear it??

Looks great. Can you tell us the total cost?
Sweet!! You were definitely cooking up something quietly. We need to hear it as soon as possible. Sound clips please! I had wondered about the plastic cover piece on the TI single tip exhaust. Did you have to cut it away? Or does it have a clip to unbolt? I was thinking of adding twin tips on each side of my Corsa exhaust. Place it on an angle just like yours.
Sound clip is up guys!
https://youtu.be/AFDDA-oEe3c

It cost about half than the madness exhaust which is a complete rip off imo since it's basically a resonated straight pipe, and plus, this has quad tips. Imo, I don't think it sounded good straight piped and it would cost only a couple hundred max to replicate the madness exhaust at a local shop.
The fake tip and the shroud come off with a few bolts and clips but I did modify the edges a bit.
I haven't installed the plastic undercarriage yet but I doubt any modification will have to be made. The angle I have mine at would be really hard to replicate without doing custom work to make the slanted angles look right, unless yours are straight cut tips.
Overall I'm very satisfied with how it turned out and the sound level especially.
 
#4 ·
Sweet!! You were definitely cooking up something quietly. We need to hear it as soon as possible. Sound clips please! I had wondered about the plastic cover piece on the TI single tip exhaust. Did you have to cut it away? Or does it have a clip to unbolt? I was thinking of adding twin tips on each side of my Corsa exhaust. Place it on an angle just like yours.
 
#6 ·
Well done on going on a different route than just buying a production piece.

Curious, did the muffler shop cut off the OEM pipe and weld to that, or is there a place where it can be separated? I'd like to build a "loud" pipe for the track, but don't want to have one for the street, so having an easy way to go back to OEM would be nice.

Not sure I like the sound -- sounds a bit asthmatic -- like a Ford Focus ST, without the gnarl. Now if there's a way to get the Fiat Abarth crackle/pop sound, that would be brilliant.

What size is the piping?
 
#9 ·
The muffler shop make it completely removable so I can switch back whenever
The sound is much deeper in real life; imo it sounds as good as possible without being obnoxious and annoying but if you just care about being loud then get a straight pipe after the car on the down pipe
Here's a pic of the y pipe to dual pipe he custom piped and the connection to the original pipe.
It's all 2.25" after the y pipe which is good because you need to worry about exhaust fume scavenging and 2.5 wouldn't be proper for this engine

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#10 · (Edited)
Thank you! It sounds amazing when it changes gears, it pops really loud!
I'll have another DIY coming out on the hid lighting system I installed and will keep things interesting :)


Awesome! Can you elaborate more on how the plastic shroud around the tip was removed from the TI? I am going to add quad tips as well. :) Looking on line at different options. What is the diameter size of each tip?

Since this is a 2.0 inline 4, I would keep the exhaust single tube as long as possible and split until the very end for each side of the exhaust.
Sure, if you look from the back you'll see a bunch of clips where the fake tip disconnects then the should just pops off, it's really simple. I did have cut the excess off where the should connects but it's no problem, I'll use high temp silicone when returning the car after the lease and no one will be able to tell the difference
Here's a pic of the inside clips of the should being cut off

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The main job was done with a saw and I did the detail work at home with a dremel. Looks perfect now

As for the piping, it splits at very rear at the point where the original exhaust bolts off so it'll be very easy to install the original back on

Here's the pic of that again

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#14 ·
You mean the second tip on a Ti is fake? Wow I had no clue. All four flow on your custom, right?
 
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#15 ·
That is fantastic. Dude, you've got some balls doing this on a leased vehicle. Of course, worst case scenario, if they have a problem with it, you just buy out the car from them, reinstall your custom pipes, and then perhaps sell it for a little profit.
Great job!
 
#37 ·
I actually have the exhaust listed for sale now for much less than getting it done custom, check out my selling thread

For sale link

Or my eBay link


Can I ask what exhaust shop did you go to? We're neighbors i live in Glendale right across from the alfa de
Maybe we do a group buy LOL, I'm in LA as well.
 
#23 ·
NO WAY are second tips on factory dual tip Giulias fake ...
have a scroll through these cars and check the rear tips, both have carbon on them

http://demo.alfaromeo.com.au/listing/demo

this is where you may be confused, there is an optional mod kit where you can add a second exhaust tip to a single exhaust Giulia ( 200hp models are single tip) and the second tip is a dummy, but ALL cars with dual exhausts are dual exhaust cars ... diesel and Veloce
 
#26 · (Edited)
The reasons why many contemporary cars, Giulia and Stelvio included, have the exhaust tips integrated in the bumper cover essentially boil down to style and ease of assembly (hence, ultimately, cost).

The exhaust must be free to move relative to the body, so designers and engineers must leave a certain amount of clearance around the tip, when it's mounted on the actual exhaust line. This will limit the diameter of the tip, or lead to ungainly cutouts in the bumper cover. With the tips on the bumper, you have no empty space between the chrome ring and the bumpers. That makes designers happy. The required clearance now becomes the space between the chrome tip and the actual exhaust inside (this is why they're so different in diameter).

Also, with the classic exhaust-mounted tips, care must be exercised during assembly so that the tips are correctly centered relative to the bumper cutouts (Ferrari had special tools for the 360 and F430 for that purpose), and be at the correct level relative to the bumper - i.e. not sticking out or being recessed.

Finally, bumper-mounted tips allow for product variations at minimum cost. Want to introduce titanium tips, black tips, change their shape? No need to have a specific entire exhaust made by the supplier. Just order new tips.

That does not make them fake, as long as the actual exhaust pipe ends are inside the bumper-mounted tips, which is the case in the Giulia and Stelvio. Ferrari has been doing the exact same thing since the California.
 
#27 ·
Hi Seropdiablo204

I have been wrapping my brain around ideas to make the exhaust of my Giulia sound sportier and ended up coming across this thread. What an awesome idea!

Like you, I want my Giulia to be loud when it matters and quiet when cruising around town or to/from work etc so I think you've developed a great system.

I am in Australia so I'm going to try and replicate what you've done with a similar muffler (no borla dealers here) but just wanted to know if you managed to put the plastic covers back under the exhaust and if you've noticed the trunk getting hotter or any other side effects?

Now that you've driven with the system for a while, would you mind sharing your thoughts on it? do you love it as much as the first day? has it gotten louder?

Thanks in advance for taking a few minutes of your day to help me out!
Cheers!
 
#29 ·
So I had to make an account just to comment on this, looks frigged sick especially with the deck lid spoiler, hopefully my new job goes well so I can get one of these. I also really hope they release the Veloce with the claimed 350hp closer to $48,000 than $58,000.... one can only hope.

Also they have been making fake tip exhausts like that for awhile, my friends 06 MazdaSpeed 6 had those.

I think it's custom, bought the tips and welded them at the correct angle.
 
#30 · (Edited)
^Agree, they look like he bought 4 tips, then had the pipe split and had them welded on at the correct angle.

I think it sounds great and looks awesome with the quad tips, but I’m wondering why the pipe entry/exit in the muffler is staggered?

And with regard to the cost of an aftermarket exhaust, most are costly due to the fact that they’re fully stainless and easy to install and remove, this system appears to be aluminized steel pipe, all welded together. Nothing wrong with it, just offering a little reasoning to the cost of a system purchased as opposed to custom. I remember when I got a cat back for my ‘01 Lightning, it was over $800 and was basically a muffler and side exit pipes! But it fit perfect, had great sound, and a lifetime warranty, so not bad overall.
 
#31 ·
Hi guys,

Bought my UK Giulia earlier this year, my first port of call was to squeeze as much out of her as I could. Celtic tuning offered a stage 2 tune up bumping the stock 200hp to 320hp. Happy that the gear box diff and back end can handle this, this got done once she’d done about a 1000miles, love it using the DNA shows the differences in the programming levels. It’s such a slippery beast in Dynamic.

However I’ve digressed. I too wanted a quad set up. The problem I found was that the UK market for aftermarket parts was very restricted. Most parts only had a a dual tip rather than the quad, they also muffled the exhaust note, so there’d be no increase in the tone or volume. I blame Brexit, everyone else seems too.

So long and short after sourcing a carbon rear diffuser. I have now got a quad tip pipe. How? Well, I decided to beat European regs. But maintained UK noise emissions. To do this I was going to need to have something bespoke made. I employed the services of a company near St Albans called EMP. Who subsequently relieved me of £1,200.00 of my finest UK pounds. Great that’s not cheap....

Now the problem I have is I do a lot of motorway driving so I needed something that could change pitch on. This was the main reason for the cost as I included a pressure bypass valve. This works both electronically at the push of a button but also semi opens under pressure to maintain back pressure in the exhaust, if I suddenly dump the throttle open to overtake those pesky BMW’s.

Problem 2 EMP had never done a Giulia exhaust, so as much as he was confident it would be the preverbial dogs dooh dar’s. He wouldn’t guarantee it’s sound or behaviour. That’s an expensive risk for sure for me. Either way one I took. I wanted quads.

The end result is now here and on the car. I have a 3” CAT back system with Mandrel bends on tig welded s/steal. This runs to the Bypass valve allowing for the exhaust to be directed away from the silencer. At the push of the button I can direct it through the back box keeping the noise to a level I don’t end up with a migraine from. However as noted if I drop the hammer it forces the valve open by sensing the increased exhaust pressure, this in turn reduces any additional lag.

I have to say I am really happy with the work done.

It has been so worth it and I have to say the car shows I go to it is definitely a head turner, while being the centre piece at a show at Silverstone.
 

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#39 ·
Not trying to hate but that doesn’t give the QV look, my goal was to be as close to the QV look as possible with the staggered look and pipe size and everything
Looks better than stock though

Hi guys,

Bought my UK Giulia earlier this year, my first port of call was to squeeze as much out of her as I could. Celtic tuning offered a stage 2 tune up bumping the stock 200hp to 320hp. Happy that the gear box diff and back end can handle this, this got done once she’d done about a 1000miles, love it using the DNA shows the differences in the programming levels. It’s such a slippery beast in Dynamic.

However I’ve digressed. I too wanted a quad set up. The problem I found was that the UK market for aftermarket parts was very restricted. Most parts only had a a dual tip rather than the quad, they also muffled the exhaust note, so there’d be no increase in the tone or volume. I blame Brexit, everyone else seems too.

So long and short after sourcing a carbon rear diffuser. I have now got a quad tip pipe. How? Well, I decided to beat European regs. But maintained UK noise emissions. To do this I was going to need to have something bespoke made. I employed the services of a company near St Albans called EMP. Who subsequently relieved me of £1,200.00 of my finest UK pounds. Great that’s not cheap....

Now the problem I have is I do a lot of motorway driving so I needed something that could change pitch on. This was the main reason for the cost as I included a pressure bypass valve. This works both electronically at the push of a button but also semi opens under pressure to maintain back pressure in the exhaust, if I suddenly dump the throttle open to overtake those pesky BMW’s.

Problem 2 EMP had never done a Giulia exhaust, so as much as he was confident it would be the preverbial dogs dooh dar’s. He wouldn’t guarantee it’s sound or behaviour. That’s an expensive risk for sure for me. Either way one I took. I wanted quads.

The end result is now here and on the car. I have a 3” CAT back system with Mandrel bends on tig welded s/steal. This runs to the Bypass valve allowing for the exhaust to be directed away from the silencer. At the push of the button I can direct it through the back box keeping the noise to a level I don’t end up with a migraine from. However as noted if I drop the hammer it forces the valve open by sensing the increased exhaust pressure, this in turn reduces any additional lag.

I have to say I am really happy with the work done.

It has been so worth it and I have to say the car shows I go to it is definitely a head turner, while being the centre piece at a show at Silverstone.
 
#34 ·
To the OP - great job. Sounds slightly bass-ier than the Magnaflow I have on my Ti car.

The Magnaflow fits into the stock bumper cover/ splitter, but the tips are real on the Magnaflow (not bolt ons like the OEM).

When I took my car in for service, my service adviser heard my car coming in (but not seeing it) and thought it was the QV, he said it sounded that good. I don’t think it sounds perfect like the QV, but any good aftermarket exhaust will make the Ti sound fantastic.

I have no idea why Alfa didn’t offer a sport exhaust option on this car.
 
#40 ·
Thank you, my muffler shop was going to put on a magnaflow for free instead but I really wanted the borla brand, in actuality, the inside flow design is very similar, I think they use different packing materials but it’s all the same
I had people 100% fooled into thinking it was a QV hahah it’s funny


To the OP - great job. Sounds slightly bass-ier than the Magnaflow I have on my Ti car.

The Magnaflow fits into the stock bumper cover/ splitter, but the tips are real on the Magnaflow (not bolt ons like the OEM).

When I took my car in for service, my service adviser heard my car coming in (but not seeing it) and thought it was the QV, he said it sounded that good. I don’t think it sounds perfect like the QV, but any good aftermarket exhaust will make the Ti sound fantastic.

I have no idea why Alfa didn’t offer a sport exhaust option on this car.